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Yelle helps Flames rally to beat Oilers 
AP via Yahoo! News - Oct 08 12:29 AM
Stephane Yelle did it all for the Calgary Flames on Saturday night. Yelle scored the tying goal, assisted on the go-ahead goal, had a key blocked shot and won a pivotal faceoff as the Flames edged the Edmonton Oilers 2-1 to earn a split of their season-opening home-and-home series.

florence nightingale
Saturday October 7, 2006 By Maggie McNaughton 
The New Zealand Herald - Oct 06 9:33 AM
Two New Zealand relatives of nursing legend Agnes Jones, who worked with Florence Nightingale in the 19th century, will travel to Britain next month for the premiere of a new documentary-drama about her life.

frog
Solar-powered mesh project helps find new frog 
USA Today - Oct 06 11:53 AM
A solar-powered wireless mesh network in the Amazon basin has played a part in the discovery of a new species of frog. The frog, nicknamed Yachanita, was discovered last month at a field station that was connected by mesh to the Funedesin (Foundation for Integrated Education and Development) network in Yachana, Ecuador.

foot print
How to in Sacramento: Avoid athlete's foot 
The Sacramento Bee - Oct 08 12:12 AM
1 Don't go barefoot in communal showers or pool areas.

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Funny, tuneful 'Urinetown' spoofs greed, idealism, Broadway musicals 
The Wichita Eagle - Oct 06 11:07 PM
Any show with a title like "Urinetown: The Musical" has got to be a joke, right? Well, the off-Broadway -- and very offbeat -- musical by Greg Kotis and Mark Hollman is pretty funny. And not just in the sniggering way that the title suggests.

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India-Pakistan peace to suffer if Afzal hanged: Malik 
Yahoo! India News - Oct 08 10:52 PM
London, Oct 9 (IANS) The India-Pakistan peace process is likely to be disrupted if the hanging of parliament terror attack convict Mohammed Afzal Guru was carried out, said Yasin Malik, chairman of Jammu and Kashmir Liberation Front (JKLF).

ged test
Princeton ISD brings back GED program 
McKinney Courier-Gazette - Oct 05 2:32 PM
The Princeton Independent School District has brought back its GED program after a three-year hiatus. Princeton ISD Assistant Superintendent Jackie Hendricks said the district decided to bring back the program after a high demand of people were inquiring about it.

greek
Greek September Inflation Rose in Sept. 
AP via Yahoo! Finance - Oct 09 3:49 AM
Greek inflation rose 2.9 percent on-year in September, the National Statistics Service said Monday. The increase was less than August when inflation rose 3.5 percent on-year.

george washington
George Washington May Point for BC Classic 
BloodHorse - Oct 09 7:07 AM
In the wake of Dylan Thomas' disappointing effort in Saturday's Jockey Club Gold Cup (gr. I), it now possible that Coolmore and trainer Aidan O'Brien will shift gears and point for the Breeders' Cup – Presented by Dodge (gr. I) with their star miler George Washington.

german shepards
Shelter's pit bull policy abandoned 
The Santa Rosa Press Democrat - Oct 05 5:14 AM
A short-lived Sonoma County animal control policy that violated state law and would have led to increased killing of pit bulls brought outcry from animal advocates who demanded the county stop.

german shepherd
Rocky takes a bullet 
The Age - 31 minutes ago
German shepherd saves owner from home invaders.

goddess
2007 Volkswagen Eos: In Praise of a Convertible Goddess 
New York Times - Oct 08 9:26 PM
VW is hoping the Eos -- named for the supernaturally beautiful Greek goddess of the dawn -- seduces a lot of lovers. At least 12,000 a year to be exact.

gorillamask
Prince Adam was a dweeb 
USA Today - Sep 21 6:46 AM
Here's a feature that made me chuckle: The Top Ten Dumbest Secret Identities. It's no shock that Clark Kent tops the list, though I was surprised no women made the cut ... I mean, Princess Adora wasn't much better. (Link...

gothic
A new day for Duke lacrosse 
Newsday - 2 hours, 53 minutes ago
As season begins, team rallies behind 3 accused of rape, vows to control behavior; critics say nothing's changed It was the first time in memory that all of Duke University's student athletes - including members of its embattled lacrosse team - gathered under one roof, within the Gothic stone walls of the Durham, N.C., school's legendary basketball stadium.

giraffe
Prehistoric Syrian giant evolved into modern-day camel 
Belfast Telegraph - Oct 09 2:00 AM
Swiss and Syrian archaeologists working in Syria's Palmyra desert claim to have uncovered the remains of a giant camel that lived 100,000 years ago and once stood "as big as a giraffe or an elephant".

grape vine
Foul weather in Pa., NY darkens outlook for Concord grape harvest 
phillyburbs.com - Oct 07 11:04 AM
PITTSBURGH - Dark clouds are looming over the regional grape industry - literally.

graphs
PRIME BRIEFS 
Richmond Times-Dispatch - Oct 08 4:29 PM
ETC. Stats, graphs and info about aging are on the Alliance for Aging Research Web site under "The Silver Book: Chronic Disease and Medical Innovation in an Aging Nation."

graphics
Graphics core vendor to present at microprocessor forum 
Linux Devices - Oct 06 10:48 AM
The latest news & announcements about Linux based embedded applications ... Keywords: Match: Sort by: Imagination Technologies will tout its newest graphics cores for SoCs (system-on-chip processors), and discuss the Khronos Group's two parallel OpenGL ES (embedded subset) standards, in a talk entitled, "The world's first OpenGL ES 2.0 mobile GPU core" at the Microprocessor Forum next week in San

graph paper
Financial Markets Review for the Week Ended October 6, 2006 
The Ghanaian Chronicle - Oct 09 3:25 AM
GHANA STOCK MARKET MARKET SNAPSHOTS TOTAL VOLUME traded increased over the previous week largely due to the block trade of over 1 million shares in Super Paper Products Ltd (SPPC).

grasshopper
Skip the Coffee? What?s Money for, Anyway? 
New York Times - Oct 08 9:15 PM
Avoiding the regular cup of overpriced coffee has become an easy cliché for financial advisers, a symbol of money frittered away.

great white shark
Aquarium's habitat for a heavyweight / Monterey Bay creates a home for second voracious -- but delicate -- great white 
San Francisco Chronicle - Oct 08 3:51 AM
Keeping a great white shark in captivity has been the holy grail of aquariums for more than 50 years, a feat so difficult that just 10 aquariums in the world have attempted it. The Monterey Bay Aquarium is the only one to succeed. The white shark...

greek alphabet
EDITORIAL: Predicting Storms, Markets Proves Increasingly Difficult 
Real Estate News - Oct 09 2:04 PM
Insurance costs in coastal areas are up roughly 25% this year in South Carolina

greek gods
Plaka served divinely at fundraising party 
Tri-Valley Herald - 36 minutes ago
THE mere mention of the Greek islands conjures up a lovely picture of sun-splashed land and whitewashed villages jutting abruptly out of lapis-blue water, and nothing evokes the spirit of Zorba as

greek gods and goddesses
Man's atavism still comes through in modern 'Endymion' 
Tucson Citizen - Oct 05 6:10 PM
Would you accept the promise of eternal life if it meant you would be asleep the whole time? Those Greek and Roman gods and goddesses were always up to some kind of tricky mischief.

greek mythology
McGrath's whitewash spin all too predictable 
Times Online - Oct 08 3:32 PM
CASSANDRA could predict the future perfectly but, in Greek mythology, was cursed by the gods so that no one believed her. "Watch out for a wooden horse packed with Greek soldiers," she tells the Trojans....

grizzly bear
No sign of grizzly after Colorado sighting 
Casper Star-Tribune - Oct 09 1:19 AM
ASPEN, Colo. (AP) -- An air and ground search has turned up no sign of grizzly bears in the Independence Pass area after a sighting reported last month.

guillotine
STROPPY THIERRY GOES OFF IN A HUFF 
Daily Record - Oct 08 11:26 PM
FRENCH aristocrat Thierry Henry stormed out of a Press conference in a fit of pique after the Hampden guillotine fell and chopped off his ego. Stung by the 1-0 humbling at the hands of Walter Smith's battling Scots, the Arsenal striker said: "I'll see you in Paris."

guiness book of world records
Doctor Who Makes Guinness Book of World Records 
Slashdot - Sep 29 2:28 PM
shadowlight1 writes "According to a BBC press release, cult favorite Doctor Who has entered the Guiness Book of World Records as the world's longest running science fiction show! There we go, it's official. Also, the second season of Who premieres on the SciFi channel tonight." From the release: "The series began on 23 November, 1963, and was revived in 2005 after 16 years off the screen. William

hamsters
What's happenin' 
Montana Standard - Oct 07 10:45 PM
Looking for something to do Sunday? Consider the following: ANIMAL BLESSINGS Pets, from horses to hamsters, will be blessed in the south courtyard of St. John’s Episcopal Church, 15 N. Idaho St., at 12:15 p.m. For more information, call 723-4017, 782-5435, or stop by the church.

hieroglyphics
Magical Puppets Brought to Life by Opera 
New York Times - Oct 08 10:24 PM
If only all journeys to enlightenment were as whimsical and lighthearted as the route chosen by Julie Taymor in her magical production of Mozart?s "Zauberflöte."

helen keller
Suffolk County Helen Keller Services seek volunteers 
Babylon Beacon - Oct 05 2:56 PM
Suffolk County Helen Keller Services for the blind is seeking volunteers in all areas of Suffolk County to spend one or two hours a week visiting blind, elderly people who are homebound. Visits will involve socialization, reading mail and in some cases, transportation to the store or doctor.

hercules
Defenseless ’Hercules’ sits on a cliff in Bistoun 
IranMania.com - Oct 06 10:22 PM
LONDON, October 6 (IranMania) - Dating back to the 153 BC, the historical 'Hercules Statue' sits on a cliff in Bistoun Mountain, Kermanshah province.

hermes
PARIS FASHION GETS EMOTIONAL AT KENZO, HERMES, GALLIANO 
The Tocqueville Connection - Oct 07 6:32 PM
PARIS, Oct 8, 2006 (AFP) - The Paris fashion catwalks were a mix of emotions on Saturday, from Hermes' nonchalant elegance, to sensual and sensitive at John Galliano and Kenzo's romantic dream.

hibiscus
Rum Runner hibiscus changes color throughout day 
The Clarion-Ledger - Oct 06 3:19 AM
One of the plants I enjoyed the most on my deck this growing season has been a tropical hibiscus named Rum Runner. It's a large, 8-inch bloomer that has been very popular in Florida, and an Internet search indicates many other gardeners want it, too.

hide
Police raid militant hide-outs, arrest 48 suspected Taliban 
The Columbus Dispatch - Oct 08 4:02 AM
Police acting on a tip raided several militant hide-outs and arrested 48 suspected Taliban who had arrived in small groups from Afghanistan, police said yesterday.

hilarious
'Pearls' fans respond with wit 
Contra Costa Times - 32 minutes ago
It was just a few weeks ago that we unleashed the slightly demented daily comic strip "Pearls Before Swine" upon our readers. Dangling the promise of autographed copies of Stephan Pastis' comic books as bait, we asked readers to tell us which character they most resembled and why. Well, you guys were so creative -- those clever descriptions, hilarious comments and, of course, abject flattery make

hitler
Two Ex-Terrorists and Former Nazi Hitler Youth Speak Out at Columbia UniversityWednesday, Oct. 11 at 7:30 p.m. 
[Press Release] U.S. Newswire via Yahoo! News - 35 minutes ago
> On Wednesday, Oct. 11 at 7:30 p.m. former PLO terrorist Walid Shoebat, former Lebanese terrorist Zachariah Anani and former Nazi Hitler youth and German soldier Hilmar von Campe will speak at Columbia University, Roone Arledge Auditorium (115th Street and Broadway).

honey bee
Parade caps Honey Bee Festival 
The Valdosta Daily Times - Oct 07 8:57 PM
VALDOSTA – After 25 years, the Hahira Honey Bee Festival continues to be the buzz of the area, bringing in a wide array of vendors and activities as well as visitors old and new.

hoist
It's Oktoberfest, time to hoist a stein and dance a polka 
Miami Herald - Oct 05 12:18 AM
Hoist your beer stein and break out the lederhosen. Oktoberfest is here, and there are plenty of German-themed restaurants and bars where you can party. Just say danke schn to Crown Prince Ludwig, who launched the first Oktoberfest in 1810 to celebrate his marriage.

hosta
Clever writing, well-acted, beautifully costumed 'Casanova' 
The Morning Call - Oct 08 1:28 AM
''Masterpiece Theatre'' (PBS 39,12 44 at 9) presents a quick, witty adaptation of the ''Casanova'' story, squeezing the famous lover's 12-volume memoirs into rollicking four-hour miniseries that gallops over two weekends.

hot water
Drop in hot water pressure means it's time for tune-up 
The Cincinnati Post - Oct 06 9:54 PM
Q: We own a 90-plus-year-old house. In the last nine months our hot water pressure has dropped to half of what our cold water pressure is. Our gas water heater is about six years old and we use city water. The pressure for the cold water seems normal at all faucets. We do not have soft water, and lime deposits killed our previous electric water heater after 10 years of use. Is the water heater

tied
O'Neil's Legacy Tied With Plans For Education Center 
KMBC TheKansasCityChannel.com via Yahoo! News - Oct 08 1:58 PM
Buck O'Neil's legacy is firmly tied with plans to turn the old YMCA building at 19th Street and The Paseo into a place for kids, KMBC's Michele Rooney reported.

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Flames

Flaming is the act of sending or posting messages that are deliberately hostile and insulting, usually in the social context of a discussion board on the Internet. Such messages are called flames, and are sometimes posted in response to flamebait. Flaming is said by some to be one of a class of economic problems known as The Tragedy of the Commons, when a group holds a resource (in this case, communal attention), but each of the individual members has an incentive to overuse it. Flamers usually call their flames justified attacks.

Although the trading of insults is as old as human speech, flaming on the Internet, like many other online 'actions', started in the Usenet hierarchies (although it was known to occur in the WWIVnet and FidoNet computer networks as well). A flame may have elements of a normal message, but is distinguished by its intent. A flame is typically not intended to be constructive, to further clarify a discussion, or to persuade other people. The motive for flaming is often not dialectic, but rather social or psychological. Sometimes, flamers are attempting to assert their authority, or establish a position of superiority. Occasionally, flamers wish to upset and offend other members of the forum, in which case they are trolls. Most often however, flames are angry or insulting messages transmitted by people who have strong feelings about a subject. Finally, some consider flaming to be a great way to let off steam, though the receiving party may be less than pleased.

Similarly, a normal, non-flame message may have elements of a flame -- it may be hostile, for example -- but it is not a flame if it is seriously intended to advance the discussion.

The word flaming is also sometimes used for long, intensive and heated discussions, even though insults do not occur.

Contents

  • 1 Flame wars
    • 1.1 Pie fights
  • 2 Extended use of the term "flame war"
  • 3 Holy wars
  • 4 Causes of flaming
  • 5 External links

Flame wars

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A flame war is a series of flaming messages in electronic discussion groups such as usenet, mailing lists or internet forums. There are a number of characteristics of electronic communication which have been cited as being conducive to flame wars. Electronic communications do not easily transmit facial expressions or voice intonations which may serve to moderate the tone of a message. (However, some users may add on 'smileys' (e.g. ;) ) to lessen the sting of a negative post, or to clarify the meaning behind a post.) Also, there is typically a lag time between the time a message is transmitted and the time a reply is read. These two characteristics can cause a "positive feedback loop" in which the emotional intensity of an electronic exchange increases to extremely high levels. Many times, the intent of a message is misunderstood, causing an unintentional flame war. These tend to escalate and worsen very quickly, sometimes causing the topic in which the reply is submitted to be closed, or "locked".

Alternatively, flame wars may be instigated deliberately by Internet trolls.

Jay W. Forrester described a phenomenon that often happens in flamewars whereby participants talk past each other. Each participant employs a different mental model (i.e. due to fundamental differences in their assumptions about what a particular word or concept means, they are actually discussing two different things).

Pie fights

A pie fight is a type of discourse specific to bulletin boards, blogs and other types of Internet forums. Pie fights are characterized by heated, emotional argumentation about a marginal issue that has little or nothing to do with the regular subject matter of the forum in question, but comes to be so vehement that it overshadows any other topic of dialogue. Pie fights are typically of short duration, but can have a devastating effect on an online community. Pie fights can be started by Internet trolls who use baiting techniques to enrage Internet forum users so much that they post inappropriate and/or offensive messages. Unfortunately, this often results in disruption of the forum more than anything else.

The term "pie fight" is derived from a June, 2005 event on Daily Kos, a liberal and progressive issues web site, in which site administrators accepted an advertisement that showed two scantily-clad women throwing pies and smearing each other with whipped cream and pie filling. This advertisement was for the TBS reality series The Real Gilligan's Island.[1]

Despite the fact that the advertisement was only marginally related to the regular subject matter discussed on Daily Kos, it dominated the user diary entries and blog comments for several days. The animosity generated by the acceptance of this advertisement caused some established members of the Daily Kos community to cease participation in the forum that it provides.

Extended use of the term "flame war"

Sometimes, serious academic or technical disagreements online are described casually as "flame wars" even when the major participants are making useful and informative points and, largely, not flaming. This may have to do with the degree to which observers identify emotionally with the sides of the debate, or see esteemed leaders or role-models representing their own points of view powerfully.

For example, the Usenet discussion between Andrew S. Tanenbaum and Linus Torvalds on microkernel versus monolithic kernel operating system design (Tanenbaum-Torvalds debate) has been described as a famous "flame war". Despite being designated a "flame war", the debate is quite informative: it has been studied by serious computer scientists and researchers, and continues to remain recommended and even required reading in courses on OS design and implementation.

Partly, terming such a discussion a "flame war" seems to be due to faulty or distorted memory of the discussion itself: it is easier to remember the (relatively few) insulting asides made -- such as Tanenbaum's comment that he would give Torvalds a poor grade for Linux's design -- than it is to remember the technical points. To continue the above example, Torvalds and Tanenbaum have both made it clear that they consider their famous discussion to have been mischaracterized.

Technical "advocacy" discussions, concerning the merits or flaws of a technology -- or especially of rival technologies -- can often seem "flamy" simply from the emotional intensity of hobbyists or professionals involved. Some have called the debates about the relative merits of Intel Pentium versus PowerPC, or Pentium 4 versus Athlon XP, or Microsoft Windows versus Mac OS X, or Microsoft Windows versus Linux, or Apple Computer's decision to go with NeXT over BeOS as "flame wars", even though the discussions are often highly technical and non-inflammatory.

Also, the debates on certain topics in theoretical physics, such as loop quantum gravity versus string theory between Lubos Motl and John Baez and Steve Carlip has been described by string theorist and Harvard professor of physics Lubos Motl as a "flame war" -- despite the fact that they were a source of fruitful articles on quasinormal modes of black hole physics.

It is also possible that the use of the term "flame war" for heated debates be used in anticipation of the debate becoming an actual flame war.

Holy wars

A holy war, in the sense used in hacker slang, is a protracted, sometimes heated, conflict or argument usually based upon personal preferences of one technology over another. Famous holy wars of hackerdom have included the Unix vs. ITS disagreement (which spawned the UNIX-HATERS Handbook), the eternal war between vBulletin and phpBB forum script users and the perennial editor wars between Unix programmers who use vi to edit source code and those who use emacs.

Whereas a flame war is usually a particular spate of flaming against a non-flamy background, a holy war is a drawn-out disagreement that may last years or even span careers. For instance, younger Linux programmers who today have strong opinions on vi and emacs may not even have been born in 1976 when these editors were released.

Use of the term "Holy War" implies that the root of the disagreement is a clash of values, and intractible of resolution except by agreeing to disagree.

Causes of flaming

There is no general agreement on the causes of flaming, although a recent study has led to somewhat conclusive evidence. Some common hypotheses are:

  1. Egocentrism causes us to think we know a writer's tone 90% of the time, although we only are correct about 56% of the time. This leads us to misinterpretation of the writer's intended meaning, causing flame wars.
  2. The lack of body language and voice inflection make it difficult to show emotions in a nuanced way, and the relative anonymity means that it is felt less dangerous to use heated language.
  3. In forums and chats, there is usually no other way to express your opinion than by writing. Not writing can be interpreted as "giving up". And opinions and ideas stated a long time ago can be forgotten, causing a need to repeat them. According to this view, a good system for Computer Supported Argument Visualisation (CSAV) might help to clarify the issues without repetition. Sometimes, however, there is a disagreement on so fundamental criteria, that it is not even possible to agree on a structure of the issues and arguments.
  4. It is reasonable to consider that some forms of flaming can be attributed to deeper social or psychological weaknesses, probably from lack of exposure to a broader spectrum of disciplines that result in self-control issues.

Wired News: The Secret Cause of Flame Wars http://www.wired.com/news/technology/0,70179-0.html?tw=rss.index

A reference on CSAV: "Visualizing Argumentation", by Paul A. Kirschner et al (ed), Springer-Verlag, ISBN 1-85233-664-1.

External links

  • A compilation of several guides to flaming
  • Andrew Heenan's Guide to Flaming
  • Netizen's Guide to Flame Warriors
  • Devious Tyrant A small forum with a highly skilled and dedicated flaming community.
  • Brawl Hall Flaming Community
  • FlameChamps Flame Forum Matches
  • Original pie fight posting on Daily Kos
  • MediaDailyNews article on the pie fight phenomenon
  • dKosopedia entry on pie fight
  • Flamewar! a free videogame that mocks flaming behavior
  • Flame, Flame on!, Flame bait, Flamage, and Flamer on Ursine's Jargon Wiki.
  • Email Etiquette Guide
  • Email Etiquette
  • Etiquette: Why is it important?
  • Quick Facts About Internet Flaming
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Yelle helps Flames rally to beat Oilers 

AP via Yahoo! News - Oct 08 12:29 AM
Stephane Yelle did it all for the Calgary Flames on Saturday night. Yelle scored the tying goal, assisted on the go-ahead goal, had a key blocked shot and won a pivotal faceoff as the Flames edged the Edmonton Oilers 2-1 to earn a split of their season-opening home-and-home series.

Yelle scores tying goal, sets up Nilson's winner as Flames edge Oilers 2-1 
Canadian Press via Yahoo! News - Oct 07 11:34 PM
CALGARY (CP) - Stephane Yelle did it all for the Calgary Flames on Saturday night.

Yelle scores tying goal, sets up Nilson's winner as Flames edge Oilers 2-1 
Canadian Press via Yahoo! News - Oct 07 10:05 PM
CALGARY (CP) - Stephane Yelle scored the tying goal and assisted on Marcus Nilson's game winner as the Calgary Flames edged the Edmonton Oilers 2-1 Saturday night, earning a split of their season-opening home-and-home series.

Flames split home-and-home with Oilers 
CBS Sportsline - Oct 07 10:42 PM
Stephane Yelle scored the tying goal and assisted on Marcus Nilson's game-winner as the Calgary Flames rallied for a 2-1 victory over the Edmonton Oilers on Saturday night, earning a split of their season-opening home-and-home series.

Yelle helps Flames rally to beat Oilers 
OregonLive.com - Oct 07 11:53 PM
CALGARY, Alberta (AP) — Stephane Yelle scored the tying goal and assisted on Marcus Nilson's game-winner as the Calgary Flames rallied for a 2-1 victory over the Edmonton Oilers on Saturday night, earning a split of their season-opening home-and-home series.

Flames Split Home-and-home Set With Oilers 
WJLA-TV Washington D.C. - Oct 07 11:36 PM
(Sports Network) - Stephane Yelle scored a goal and added an assist to lead the Calgary Flames to a 2-1 victory over the Edmonton Oilers in the back end of a home-and-home set at Pengrowth Saddledome.

Favored Flames burn Oilers at home 
Covers.com - Oct 07 10:47 PM
CALGARY, Alberta -- Stephane Yelle scored the tying goal and assisted on Marcus Nilson`s game-winner as the Calgary Flames rallied for a 2-1 victory over the Edmonton Oilers on Saturday night, earning a split of their season-opening ...

Flames 2 Oilers 1 
KOIN News 6 Portland - Oct 07 11:05 PM
CALGARY, Alberta Stephane Yelle scored the tying goal and assisted on Marcus Nilson's game-winner as the Calgary Flames rallied for a 2-to-1 victory over Edmonton. That gives them a split of their season-opening home-and-home series.

Flames 2 Oilers 1 
WOOD TV 8 - Oct 07 10:49 PM
CALGARY, Alberta Stephane Yelle scored the tying goal and assisted on Marcus Nilson's game-winner as the Calgary Flames rallied for a 2-to-1 victory over Edmonton.

Yelle scores tying goal, sets up Nilson's winner as Flames edge Oilers 2-1 
Canada.com - Oct 07 10:26 PM
Edmonton Oilers goalie Dwayne Roloson reacts to the Calgary Flames scoring during second period NHL hockey action in Calgary, Saturday. (CP PHOTO/Jeff McIntosh)